The Integral Trees

The Integral Trees[Ebook] ➩ The Integral Trees Author Larry Niven – Tbjewellers.co.uk When leaving Earth, the crew of the spaceship Discipline was prepared for a routine assignment Dispatched by the all powerful State on a mission of interstellar exploration and colonization, Disciplin When leaving Earth, the crew of the spaceship Discipline was prepared for a routine assignment Dispatched by the all powerful State on a mission of interstellar exploration and colonization, Discipline was aided and secretly spied upon by Sharls The Integral MOBI :´ Davis Kendy, an emotionless computer intelligence programmed to monitor the loyalty and obedience of the crew But what they weren t prepared for was the smoke ring an immense gaseous envelope that had formed around a neutron star directly in their path The Smoke Ring was home to a variety of plant and animal life forms evolved to thrive in conditions of continual free fall When Discipline encountered it, something went wrong The crew abandoned ship and fled to the unlikely space oasisFive hundred years later, the descendants of the Discipline crew living on the Smoke Ring no longer remember their origins Earth is myth than memory, and no recollection of the State remains But Kendy remembers And just outside the Smoke Ring, Discipline waits patiently to make contact with its wayward children.

Laurence van Cott Niven s best known work is RingworldRingworld, , which received the Hugo, Locus, Ditmar, and Nebula awards His work is primarily hard science fiction, using big science concepts and theoretical physics The creation The Integral MOBI :´ of thoroughly worked out alien species, which are very different from humans both physically and mentally, is recognized as one of Niven s main strengthsNiven also often includes elements of detective fiction and adventure stories His fantasy includes The Magic Goes Away series, which utilizes an exhaustible resource, called Mana, to make the magic a non renewable resource Niven created an alien species, the Kzin, which were featured in a series of twelve collection books, the Man Kzin Wars He co authored a number of novels with Jerry Pournelle In fact, much of his writing since the s has been in collaboration, particularly with Pournelle, Steven Barnes, Brenda Cooper, or Edward M LernerHe briefly attended the California Institute of Technology and graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in mathematics with a minor in psychology from Washburn University, Topeka, Kansas, in He did a year of graduate work in mathematics at the University of California at Los Angeles He has since lived in Los Angeles suburbs, including Chatsworth and Tarzana, as a full time writer He married Marilyn Joyce Fuzzy Pink Wisowaty, herself a well known science fiction and Regency literature fan, on September , Niven won the Hugo Award for Best Short Story for Neutron Star in In , for Inconstant Moon, and in for The Hole Man In , he won the Hugo Award for Best Novelette for The Borderland of SolNiven has written scripts for various science fiction television shows, including the original Land of the Lost series and Star Trek The Animated Series, for which he adapted his early Kzin story The Soft Weapon He adapted his story Inconstant Moon for an episode of the television series The Outer Limits in He has also written for the DC Comics character Green Lantern including in his stories hard science fiction concepts such as universal entropy and the redshift effect, which are unusual in comic bookstp uscmillan author larryn.

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    PDF Reader for the Connected World crew But what they weren t prepared for was the smoke ring an immense gaseous envelope that had formed around a neutron star directly in their path The Smoke Ring was home to a variety of plant and animal life forms evolved to thrive in conditions of continual free fall When Discipline encountered it, something went wrong The crew abandoned ship and fled to the unlikely space oasisFive hundred years later, the descendants of the Discipline crew living on the Smoke Ring no longer remember their origins Earth is myth than memory, and no recollection of the State remains But Kendy remembers And just outside the Smoke Ring, Discipline waits patiently to make contact with its wayward children."/>
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  • The Integral Trees
  • Larry Niven
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  • 03 January 2018
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  1. says:

    Christmas 2010 I realised that I had got stuck in a rut I was re reading old favourites again and again, waiting for a few trusted authors to release new works Something had to be done.On the spur of the moment I set myself a challenge, to read every book to have won the Locus Sci Fi award That s 35 books, 6 of which I d previously read, leaving 29 titles by 14 authors who were new to me.While working through this reading list I got married, went on my honeymoon, switched career and beca Christmas 2010 I realised that I had got stuck in a rut I was re reading old favourites again and again, waiting for a few trusted authors to release new works Something had to be done.On the spur of the moment I set myself a challenge, to read every book to have won the Locus Sci Fi award That s 35 books, 6 of which I d previously read, leaving 29 titles by 14 authors who were new to me.While working through this reading list I got married, went on my honeymoon, switched career and became a father As such these stories became imprinted on my memory as the soundtrack to the happiest period in my life so far.Oh, what to say aboutThe Integral TreesThe concept may have seemed strange and original back in 85, but to the mind of this genre burnt geek, familiar with the works it presumably helped inspire, it felt comfortable, cosy and tame.There s a gas ring around a neutron star full of free fall life forms, with stranded humans living a floating Peter Pan hunter gatherer lifestyle amid the alien eco system with their cultural memories of civilised planets littlethan myths of legends It s a story about gradually broadening horizons our little tribe of survivors live in on around a zero g space tree Their tree is their world Then OMG they re tossed off the tree and discoverhumans living on other trees Dare to dream their might even be humans outside the gas ring oh wait, there s a spaceship Whoa, what a mindfrack I m not going to call this a great book None of the characters are particularly vivid or memorable The story isn t revolutionary or daring There s nowt in the way of a thematic suckerpunch Applicable words to describe this book are FUN, ESCAPISM, ROMP, PLAYFUL and SMART.I recommend this to fans of Asimov and or Varley for me this fell halfway between the style of the latter Foundation books and Titan I ve heard that Pohl would make this m nage trois a full on four way, but I haven t read any of his work yet to make that statement with much certainty.The Hugo that year went toNeuromancer , and you have to say the better book won in that showdown But I m glad that Locus gave it toThe Integral Trees, because otherwise this novel could easily have been forgotten over the years and it s one that I recommended unreservedly as a thoroughly enjoyable little read Great for a fling but maybe not one to settle down with, y know I m pretty sure I ll cycle back around at some point to readA World Out of TimeandRingworldI enjoyed touching base with his Nivenness and as soon as the opportunity arises I d be happy to dig a little deeper into his catalogue

  2. says:

    Integrating the trees f zaround the Smoke Ring C, we haveThe rest of this review is available elsewhere the location cannot be given for Goodreads policy reasons

  3. says:

    Imagine living with air, water, plants and animals but No land Welcome to the Smoke Ring around a far star The thoughts of a man now inside a computer program in charge of the star ship Discipline. It was taking too long, much longer than he had expected Sharis Davis Kendy had not been an impatient man After the change he had thought himself immune to impatience But it was taking too long What were they doing in there His senses were not limited Sharis s telescopic array was power Imagine living with air, water, plants and animals but No land Welcome to the Smoke Ring around a far star The thoughts of a man now inside a computer program in charge of the star ship Discipline. It was taking too long, much longer than he had expected Sharis Davis Kendy had not been an impatient man After the change he had thought himself immune to impatience But it was taking too long What were they doing in there His senses were not limited Sharis s telescopic array was powerful he could sense the full electromagnetic spectrum, from microwave up to X ray But the Smoke Ring balked his view It was a storm of wind, dust, clouds of water vapor, huge rippling drops of dirty water or thin mud, masses of free floating rock dots and motes and clumps of green, green surfaces on the drops and the rocks green tinges of algae in the clouds trees shaped like integration signs, oriented radially to the neutron star and tufted with green at both ends whale sized creatures with vast mouths, to skim the green tinged clouds Life was everywhere in the Smoke Ring Claire Dalton had called it a Christmas wreath Claire had been a very old woman before the State revived her as a corpsicle The others had never seen a Christmas wreath nor had Kendy What they had seen, half a thousand years ago, was a perfect smoke ring several tens of thousands of kilometers across, with a tiny hot pinpoint in its center Their reports had been enthusiastic Life was DNA based, the air was not only breathable, but tasted fine Discipline presently occupied the point of gravitational neutrality behind Goldblatt s World, the L2 point This close, the sky split equally into star sprinkled, black and green tinged cloudscape Directly below, a vast distorted whirlpool of storm hid the residue of a gas giant planet, a rocky nugget two and a half times the mass of Earth Sharis would not enter that inner region The maelstrom of forces could damage his ship He couldn t guess how long the seeder r mship must survive to accomplish his mission He had waitedthan half a thousand years already The L2 point was still within the gas torus of which the Smoke Ring was only the densest part Discipline was subject to slow erosive forces He couldn t last forever in this place At least the crew were not extinct That would have hurt him terribly First catch your dinner .There was a hole in the tree From the blackness inside Gavving saw a thickening of the live rope and a single eye lifting on a stalk to look at him He jabbed at it A lid flicked closed the stalk dodged Gavving tracked it He felt the jar through his arm and shoulder as the harpoon punched through A huge mouth opened and screamed The living rope thrashed and tried to fling Glory away What saved Glory was Glory hersell she had plunged her own harpoon through the brown hawser and gripped the point where it emerged She clung to the haft with both hands while the rope bent around to attack Gavving The mouth was lined with rows of triangular teeth Gavving pulled his harpoon loose from the eye, with a twist, as if he had practiced all his life He jabbed at the mouth, trying to reach the throat The mouth snapped shut and he struck only teeth He jabbed at the eye again Something convulsed in the dark of the hole The mouth gaped improbably wide Then a black mass surged from the hole Gavving flung himself aside in time to escape being smashed loose A hut sized beast leapt into the sky on three short, thick legs armed with crescent claws Short wings spread, a claw swiped at him and missed Gavving saw with amazement that the rope was its nose He had thought it was trying to escape Ten meters from its den it turned with astonishing speed Gavving shrank back against the bark with his harpoon poised The beast s wings flapped madly, in reverse, pulling it back against its stretching nosefutilely The foray team had arrived in force Lines wrapped Glory and trapped the creature s rope of a nose Lines spun out to bind its wings Clave was screaming orders He and Jinny and the Grad pulled strongly, turning the beast claws outward from the tree In that position it was reeled in until harpoons could reach its head Gavving picked a spot and jabbed again and again, drilling through bone, then red gray brain He never noticed when the thing stopped moving He only came to himself when dave shouted, Gavving, Glory, dinner s on you You killed it, you clean it Cargo And Repair Module CARM.He stood stupidly Carm She slapped its metal flank and pronounced the syllables as she had been taught Cargo And Repair Module CARM In He got through both doors and a few paces beyond, and there he stopped, gaping, trying to see in every direction at once For the moment she left him to it She didn t blame him Few copsiks ever saw the interior of the carm Ten chairs faced into a tremendous curved window of thick glass Images were there that couldn t be outside the glass, nor could they be reflections They must be in the glass itself numbers and letters and line drawings in blue and yellow and green Behind the chairs was thirty or forty cubic meters of empty space There were bars set to swivel out of the walls and floor and ceiling, and numerous loops of metal anchorage for stored goods against the jerky pull of the motors Even so, the cabin was only a fifth the size of the carm What was the rest When the carm moved, flame had spurted from nostrils at the rear It seemed that something must burn to move the carma good deal of it, if it occupied most of the carm s bulkand pumps to move the fuel, and mysteries whose names he d glimpsed in the cassettes attitude jet life support system, computer, mass sensor, echo laser The calm left by the needle had almost left his blood He was starting to be afraid Could he learn to read those numbers in the glass Would he have the chance In Discipline the man computer program Sharis Davis Kendy waits for the humans to take their next big step and leave the Smoke Ring Enjoy

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    As a math major, reading this book prior to class often came with the burden of disclaiming, It s not about math And that s a little disappointing, actually, because I don t read enough books about math, especially fiction books And The Integral Trees would make a damn good title for a math novel.But no, Larry Niven had to go and steal the title for his own nefarious purposes It actually took me longer than it should have taken to realize why the integral trees were named as such I admit I As a math major, reading this book prior to class often came with the burden of disclaiming, It s not about math And that s a little disappointing, actually, because I don t read enough books about math, especially fiction books And The Integral Trees would make a damn good title for a math novel.But no, Larry Niven had to go and steal the title for his own nefarious purposes It actually took me longer than it should have taken to realize why the integral trees were named as such I admit I did not scrutinize the diagrams very closely They re shaped like integral signs That s not very impressive.Fortunately, most of the book s worldbuilding is impressive and pretty much what I expect from the person who wrote Ringworld I d go so far as to declare the worldbuilding in The Integral Trees superior to Ringworld s Although Niven s concept of a ringworld is better known andportable than the Gas Torus and Smoke Ring of this novel, the latter environment results in far weirder inhabitants and habitations Getting used to how one moves around in an environment consisting of constant freefall is a bit of a challenge But this gives Niven the opportunity to construct wonderful scenes that would usually beat home in a fantasy story rather than a work of science fiction.Now, I m not one who visualizes events, even the most mundane ones, so scenes like the flight of the CARM don t fill my mind with cinematic wonder Nevertheless, there s still plenty about the unique environment of the Smoke Ring that intrigues me, such as the changes in physiology undergone by the descendants of the original Discipline crew members These are people, humans with the same foibles as the rest of us, yet they are biologically somewhat different Not only are their bodies longer, slimmer, their feet almost as skillful at manipulating objects as their hands, but their society, having developed in a ring of translucent gas, has radically different conceptions of ground and sky Science and their history prior to arriving at the Smoke Ring ismythological than archaeological some tribes are lucky enough to have a Scientist who has access to tapes and readers with the data of the Discipline expedition.Although the inhabitants of the Smoke Ring have largely forgotten Discipline, Discipline has not forgotten them The ship is controlled by the recorded personality of Sharls Davis Kendy Niven steps away from a true artificial intelligence by using recorded personalities these, along with the concepts of storage space and tapes and readers make for a very analog vision of the future As a recorded personality, however, Kendy is a very interesting character Unlike an AI, who would presumably be extremely clever and patient, Kendy is a fallible being who makes a lot of mistakes including letting the Discipline anywhere near the Smoke Ring, though he claims he has erased that part of the mutiny from his memory Kendy is also our only connection to Niven s distant State, a somewhat totalitarian, surveillance based system of distributed governance As such, the duty to recover crew for the Discipline and continue its mission is vital.This sense of urgency and necessity runs through all the plots of The Integral Trees This is a survival story, actually multiple survival stories, set in a fantastic environment The protagonists are refugees who survived the destruction of their tuftfrom luck than any skill on their parts as the only remaining members of the tribe, they have to start anew somewhere But subsequent events make this very difficult At first the refugees have to struggle to survive in the open air of the Smoke Ring, living on littlethan some bark that splintered from their fractured, forlorn tree Soon they have to deal with other inhabitants of the Smoke Ring, another tribe that has no compunctions about capturing slaves.Many of the main characters experience a test of loyalty as they weigh the options for survival Minya, once a member of the Dalton Quinn Tuft and now married to one of the Quinn refugees, enters the story as an antagonist With the destruction of the tree, she is stranded far from her tuft with the rest of the refugees, and out of pure practicality she marries one of the two available males After becoming a slave, Minya learns she s pregnant, though she s not sure who the father is Nevertheless, she strives to escape and reunite with her husband, whom she has known for only a few weeks.Grad Jeffer, apprentice to the Scientist of the Quinn Tribe, finds himself apprenticed to the Scientist of the tribe that captures and enslaves the refugees He is in that delicate position of collaborator still a slave, but trusted and accorded with privileges beyond an ordinary slave s position liked, essentially, by no one Jeffer, as a Scientist, has the corrupted remnants of the Discipline crew s knowledge, as well as the tapes and reader to go with it But this doesn t preclude his own crises of conscience, first when he is plotting and initiating a rebellion that results in the murder of a Scientist, and then later when he is conversing with Kendy aboard the CARM Jeffer may not be the leader of Quinn Tribe, but he is an authority figure, and for much of the book he functions as a leader while the tribe tries to escape from the slaver tree.And finally, we come back to Kendy, for whom the question of survival is twofold Firstly, on a personal level, he wants to continue his mission Babysitting the Smoke Ring civilization until it reaches a level that he can jumpstart and control must be boring And as we learn early in the book, his memory capacity is severely limited, so he is constantly editing old memories to make room for new ones How long can this go on before he is no longer himself Or has that already happened Secondly, Kendy needs to fulfil one of his missions ensure the survival of the State Although the Discipline s primary mission was to seed planets with the materials that would form complex life, every such ship is also a little pocket of the State, completely able to refound the State should it cease to exist elsewhere The fact that the crew has so thoroughly mutinied and abandoned the values of the State must be incredibly galling for Kendy.Or at least, that s the sense I get from his chapters Reading The Integral Trees takes effort, and not just because of the odd setting Niven teases us by offering very little exposition almost everything about the Smoke Ring society is explained through action and a little dialogue Once in a while, particularly during Kendy s chapters, we ll get longer infodumps, but they never go into the detail I d like We don t learn that much about the State, just enough to suggest a totalitarian government The result is a very tight book focused only on telling a story about these characters and not concerning itself with other, secondary characters Indeed, I can count on one hand the characters who feel real or three dimensional to me, and even that might be a stretch.This is the same problem I experienced in reading Ringworld Niven is a very clever, creative writer with a fertile imagination His characters, however, are flat, almost set pieces at times And sometimes the interactions between them just don t feel real at all Minya and Gavving s marriage really irked me at first they ve known each other for a day, and she proposes to him I suppose this is justifiable by pointing out that this society has evolved for five hundred years, and so customs are bound to be different from our own But it s not just the stark pragmatism at work here that s a quality I really do see as emerging from the evolution of a society in free fall It s a question of loyalties, of dependencies and relationships Some of the other characters also have a quick change of heart, convenient for Niven and the plot but problematic from the reader s perspective Consequences for being an antagonist are almost invariably a slap on the wrist and, if you re lucky, marriage By the time the refugees escape, with some now converted antagonists and some allies in tow, it seems like there are lots of loose ends that Niven simply decides to truncate rather than resolve This mutability in the dynamics between characters makes it very difficult to become invested in one character or another s survival, and that sort of pathos is essential to a good survival story And since The Integral Trees is a survival story.There are some brilliant things about this book, not the least of which is its superiority to Ringworld when it comes to worldbuilding I thought that part of the back cover summary was an editor s hyperbole it s not Alas, that s not enough, not even for Niven The story is basic, well structured, but short when it comes to an emotional connection It s stunted Ringworld suffers from similar shortcomings, but it s still superior in that respect Fortunately, they are both on the shorter side for science fiction, so you can easily make that decision for yourself

  5. says:

    This summer I have chose to re read books I read or tried to read back in high school I m positive that books I read when I was 15, or 16 years old will read differently now that I m in my 40 s The Integral Trees and it s follow up book, The Smoke Ring were such books I remember this book as a book about space fairies Humans live in this weird alien fairy type planet where they mutate into flying fairy like creatures due to the low gravity environment WellI guess this book was sort This summer I have chose to re read books I read or tried to read back in high school I m positive that books I read when I was 15, or 16 years old will read differently now that I m in my 40 s The Integral Trees and it s follow up book, The Smoke Ring were such books I remember this book as a book about space fairies Humans live in this weird alien fairy type planet where they mutate into flying fairy like creatures due to the low gravity environment WellI guess this book was sort of like that, if you squint your eyes and cross them as you read it I m not sure how I managed to forget how much real hard science is in this novel I also shudder to realize that Larry Niven would probably die if he heard this novel described as the space Fairy novels The interesting question would be, would he die of horror or would he die of laughter In reality, this novel is an intricately built world with plausible mutations based on the science of low gravity living I found the geopolitical struggles to be fascinating My one negative would be that the characters might have been a little flat compared to the glorious and gorgeous world building I must say I am looking forward to re reading the third and last book in this series

  6. says:

    I wish I could give this negative stars Good ideas embedded in sickening sexism and mediocre writing I couldn t get past the first few chapters.

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    This is an old favorite, mainly because the world Niven imagines is so unbelievably cool Let me see if I can lay it out a gas giant planet is orbiting a collapsed star a billion years after a supernova the collapsed star is one of a binary with a normal star like the Sun The gas giant s atmosphere has been slowly leaking away into orbit around the collapsed star, forming a ring of atmosphere through which the core of the planet orbits This ring is dense enough to support life all the way ar This is an old favorite, mainly because the world Niven imagines is so unbelievably cool Let me see if I can lay it out a gas giant planet is orbiting a collapsed star a billion years after a supernova the collapsed star is one of a binary with a normal star like the Sun The gas giant s atmosphere has been slowly leaking away into orbit around the collapsed star, forming a ring of atmosphere through which the core of the planet orbits This ring is dense enough to support life all the way around the collapsed star in zero gravity So there s air, but no ground And there are two suns the collapsed star, which is dim but close, and the other star, which provides light and heat Life has evolved here, including giant trees that have something resembling tidal gravity at each end, and all sorts of bird like creatures.A human spaceship arrived 500 years ago to explore the system There was some kind of mutiny, which led to the crew being stranded in the Smoke Ring Since then, humanity has spread out into innumerable tribes all slowly losing their knowledge of science while they struggle to keep a few remnants of technology working The plot does a nice job of revealing a lot of well thought out ramifications of this world various flora and fauna, various ways human tribes have adapted.The writing is maybe a little better than what you d expect from something like this written in 1980 or so The characters are interesting and sometimes unexpected There are strong female characters and even a few nicely feminist plot points, but there are several scenes one in particular that I think reveal the author s male gaze and pretty drastically undermine any positive gender politics.But depth of character isn t the point with this one Overall, the bookthan delivers on the premise it s a mostly rollicking story in an absolutely amazing setting, and every chapter reveals some new and fascinating aspect of this world

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    Storyline 2 5Characters 2 5Writing Style 2 5World 4 5Larry Niven is one of those grand masters of science fiction Literally Named the 2015 Damon Knight Memorial Grand Master, he s been a finalist for the Hugo novel award eight times for different works In my quick though surely inaccurate count of published novels and collections, I got to the number 95 This is only my seventh Niven book thus I ve not even read 8% of his works , but I haven t loved any of them I haven t even really l Storyline 2 5Characters 2 5Writing Style 2 5World 4 5Larry Niven is one of those grand masters of science fiction Literally Named the 2015 Damon Knight Memorial Grand Master, he s been a finalist for the Hugo novel award eight times for different works In my quick though surely inaccurate count of published novels and collections, I got to the number 95 This is only my seventh Niven book thus I ve not even read 8% of his works , but I haven t loved any of them I haven t even really liked a one The Integral Trees continues to confirm my estimation of Niven talented with background ideas, awful with characters, poor with clarity, below average with plotting, and obsessed with sex At an almost subliminal or superficial level, this is my favorite science fiction world in all of science fiction I first came across the idea elsewhere, view spoiler Dan Simmon s 1997 Rise of Endymion hide spoiler but Niven presented it here, 14 years earlier The author even has some diagrams which can also be seen on his webpage to make sense of his world The Smoke Ring The creation is awesome The world and its physical properties, the hard science behind it, all were delightful to imagine To find reason to believe in the existence of a place like this is one of the reasons I read science fiction It is as creative as fantasy, but with the added tantalizing benefit of being possible, however improbable As much as I loved the setup, it was really that setup and not the execution that was so good Niven is very poor with descriptions and depth of his world He laid the physics groundwork but thereafter did the same thing he did in Ringworld He made some sketches and stabs and exotic creatures, but aside from a few pointed physics tutorials, there wasn t a lot of effort or detail on how life in the Integral Trees would be experienced His sociological worldbuilding is as awful as his hard science worldbuilding is good The plotting too was what I ve come to expect from Niven He knows the general structure of adventure, thrill, and resolution but does not add anything original, deep, or creative to it He added in a nonlinear timeline with shifting perspectives on this one as well, but I thought it detracted from the story and added to his already confusing writing I really loved the integral trees but not The Integral Trees

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    In short, if you re considering reading Niven for the first time, pick this book first It s not a very long book at all I read it as a teenager so if find you hate him, then you don t endure much You get the interesting strange world premise, lots of interesting inter human development, plot twists, and a small manageable but not overwhelming dose from the science aspect of sci fi One of the first sci fi books I read I m not really a sci fi fan, but I picked this off my Dad s bookshe In short, if you re considering reading Niven for the first time, pick this book first It s not a very long book at all I read it as a teenager so if find you hate him, then you don t endure much You get the interesting strange world premise, lots of interesting inter human development, plot twists, and a small manageable but not overwhelming dose from the science aspect of sci fi One of the first sci fi books I read I m not really a sci fi fan, but I picked this off my Dad s bookshelf because I liked the cover, and it was short, unlike most of his other scifi books However, this had a good balance enough to be interesting, not enough to lose my attention completely Most of it was spread throughout the book, so I wasn t getting a huge dose, which helped The first chapter has a little , since it has to set up the premise, but it s not bad and if you get through it, it s worth it.I love how posing the idea of a strangely shaped world such as Ringworld can ripple down to affect how people think, evolve, and task manage Sure, some call it rehash pick a new shape, write a new book but we see it in our world, after all Think about how Islander communities differ from inland river side communities, and those from mountain communities In Niven s world , Humans inhabit massive trees that radiate outword from the central star like spokes on a wheel, with tufts at each end that are the only habitable portions of this world Yet we discover that there are indeed people surviving in rogue floating tufts of greenery without trees attached, which is unthinkable to tree dwellers Think pirates I believe our cripple main character gang eventually joins up with them for a while.One of the most facinating parts to this book was how these isolated little tuft communities develop, both comparing them to the advanced group they initially came from great plot twist there, btw , and to other tuft communities bothand less regressed There s quite a bit of tribla warlike action going on in one of the trees, between the two end tufts The tufts with access to information teaching tapes, teachers, etc are obviouslycivilized than the ones without, such as the dying tuft which sends out our gang of cripples But it s neat also to see that the civilized tufts are still devolving into sort of a caste or maybe master apprentice system Not sure how to characterize it Character interactions are fascinating on the small scale, between our main group, and on a larger scale, between the other tufts they come across I m annoyed at the cover on the new editions They damped down the bright green color of the old book which was a small part of the premise, that in the trees and floating greenery even the air was almost tinged with green Small, but I still remember it

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    Fantastic worldbuilding clearly took all the time Niven was willing to put into this book the characters are a clear afterthought The real problem, though is a nightmare of anti feminist bullcrap The female lead I m putting lead in quotes as all the women in this book are very clearly portrayed as pets whose only opinions are those of their men joined a sort of nun warrior class at 14, because that was the only way to avoid being raped a woman can either make babies or join this separate Fantastic worldbuilding clearly took all the time Niven was willing to put into this book the characters are a clear afterthought The real problem, though is a nightmare of anti feminist bullcrap The female lead I m putting lead in quotes as all the women in this book are very clearly portrayed as pets whose only opinions are those of their men joined a sort of nun warrior class at 14, because that was the only way to avoid being raped a woman can either make babies or join this separate class there are no other options When we meet her she is regretting that decision She meets our group, and it is made clear that she can either marry one of two available men, or else the group will kill her She decides on our hero, a 15 ish year old boy, and within the hour they re married He is, to his credit, horrified that men had been bothering her when she was fourteen, and her response is to laugh and say something like well, I AM very pretty, of course they wanted to rape me giggle giggle Later the get captured and taken as slaves the men are made to do hard labor, and the women are otherwise used That same character s response to being so used Well, at least I ll do a good job of it, if this is what I am to do

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